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Leonises
25 Jul 2009 09:47
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Everyone knows some competitors at the top of dressage are not riding correctly, I'm not naming any names, and I realise it's really very hard to ride at that level but I think changes are needed. Do judges need to more education? Or are they choosing not to see the obvious flaws? I think the major problems are having the head held to tight, I realise in some cases the horse is too tense to allow the head out, but in some cases its really extreme and horrible to watch. Do most people know the complications of having a horse so short in the frame?
The example some of these riders are setting is not a good one at all. Everyone is going to think, I need to have my horses head pulled in ride on the kurb and not have my leg constantly on! The new WB with a lot of TB in them, how are the up and coming riders going to cope?!
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26 Jul 2009 13:49
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I agree with you, some of the riders in all countries think that they can ride how they like, sometimes even to the point that they don't believe that they are doing anything wrong.
I actually had an occasion this year at a competition, where my class, specifically for young horses, was won by someone whose horse had blood from spur marks, which is a) not the first time for this rider by a long way and b) not clearly visible as the rider puts shoe polish on the horses sides before entering the arena, he is so cruel to the horse on a day to day basis, that it bolts with him and rears as it is terrified so he dare not trot it to warm up more than a few strides. Also, the horse walked with a clear lateral movement, which was scored 0,1 less than my horse, who walks for an 8 or 9.
I was not angry about not winning as I was 4th in a strong class, but more angry that someone had been allowed to get away with this and the judges do nothing about it. I made my opinions known (POLITELY I must say), and lo and behold, it was investigated and photos taken of the blood and spur marks.
If no one says anything, then it clearly sends a message to others that if you ride like that, then you will win. Where are the standards of horsemanship thesedays? I will say that in all countries, the people who ride badly are generally a minority and good, honest horsemanship generally prevails!
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Diana
03 Aug 2009 14:39
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Hi,
I am very sad to hear about that horse who has blood on him from spur marks and is afraid. I would really encourage you to write to BD about this person who will remain nameless on here (I don't know who you are referring to anyway). It is clearly abuse and BD must be informed in the most factual way possible.
We are so lucky to be able to ride horses; why do some people abuse them? It makes me angry.
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Pointer
03 Aug 2009 21:51
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I would be interested to know what people would think of as abuse.
I do a lot of teaching and occasionally a rider will inadvertantly rub their horse with the spur, this is never through kicking the horse in any way but usually because they have been trying too hard and the leg has gripped up and friction has caused a rub, this will happen more at times of the year when the coat is changing.
I always try to keep a close eye on any rubs but sometimes it happens before I have seen it. I always take the spur off straight away and the rider will be devastated at what they have done.
I do not call this abuse and although this should not happen it will happen from time to time as we are not born good riders we have to develop the skill. I know a lot of you will say these riders should not be in spurs but to me abuse is a delibarate act of cruelty to the horse, someone who has lost their cool and had a go at the horse etc etc.
I do not know what happened with the young horse you are talking about in this thread so cant comment on that one.
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nos na gaoithe
03 Aug 2009 23:15
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Abuse is abuse whether it be from poor riding. negligence or ignorance just because it was not intentional does not mean it can be excused. It is debatable whether riders who grip with their legs are skilled enough to use spurs. Rubber covered spurs are always an option then both horse and rider can operate munus the threat of injury.
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Pointer
04 Aug 2009 09:35
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I stepped back in the kitchen the other day and trod on my dogs foot - is that abuse? I did not mean to do it, I was ignorant of the fact that the dog was behind me although I should have been aware as I was chopping up food and he is always around when food is around, he yelped and limped for a few minutes, I felt awful, did I abuse him, should I not be allowed to keep a dog?
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TinkerBell
04 Aug 2009 20:05
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An accident is an accident I think, it could happen to anyone, anywhere. But if you have left your dog unattended, did not check whether he was really hurt and if he was - did nothing about it, then it would be abuse from my point of view.
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AntoniaB
12 Aug 2009 12:14
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